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Article: 13767 of comp.protocols.kermit.misc
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From: fdc@columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.arch.embedded,comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: Embedded Kermit File-Transfer Protocol
Date: 7 Oct 2002 14:07:37 -0400
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In article <ufe3qu0k1cggfgci7cr5kgtrqea8ek5qv6@4ax.com>,
Robert Reimiller <bob@certsoft.com> wrote:
: On 7 Oct 2002 09:53:27 -0400, fdc@columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) wrote:
: >: That takes me back in time, do people still use Kermit?
: >
: >They sure do; take a look at the Kermit Project website:
: >
: > http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/
: >
: Used Kermit a lot in the early 90's on Quanterra seismic data logger
: systems. They often used just a dial-up line and a Telebit modem that
: had "kermit spoofing" to speed up transfers...
:
Nothing like that is necessary with a decent Kermit protocol implementation.
That's another common misconception:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/kermit.html#notslow
: You would first use a text
: interface to select the data you wanted, which would be written to a
: file, and then use Kermit to download it.
:
: As the decade progressed we added SLIP connections along with telnet and
: ftp for doing these types of things. Over time more and more systems
: used ethernet interfaces almost exclusively. The latest equipment uses a
: web server where you fill in the boxes with the data and time ranges
: desired and it returns back a file as the response.
:
That's great for devices that can include a TCP/IP stack and a suite
of applications and servers, but that's not usually the case for fast-food
cash registers, cardiac pacemakers, drill presses, etc. Nor would you
necessarily want it to be -- I wouldn't want Internet hackers taking over
my cash register, my pacemaker, or my drill press.
- Frank